"44 year old male, chest pain & DIB"
Difficulty in breathing can mean a number of things: asthma, allergic reaction, chest infection, COPD, traumatic injury, panic attack, heart failure; the list is endless. If you call NHS direct or 999 and mention chest pain or breathing problems you will get an ambulance. It's that simple. That is regardless of whether you need one. They are the buzz words, red flags which mean it is not worth the risk. Not only will you get an ambulance, you will probably get a fast response car too because that is what the high category of call dictates. I get the need for it and on the rare occasions the chest pain is a heart attack, or the DIB is life threatening asthma, it's great to have the extra hands. Nine times out of ten however the chest pain is a panic attack and the DIB is a chest infection. This job was a pretty familiar call, especially at 7am. People with respiratory problems are worse in the mornings due to prolonged lying down; rather than get up and see if it improves over a couple of minutes, they call 999. We arrive, sit them up, put them in a chair, take them to the ambulance and they say 'I feel better now'! Shocker!
"Do you want to grab some stuff together and we'll pop you up to the hospital?"
"I don't want to go to hospital"
"Why not? You've called us for chest pain and difficulty breathing and you are showing signs of a chest infection. I think you'd benefit from hospital and some antibiotics."
"I've already got antibiotics"
"What for? When did you get them?"
"For my chest infection, I saw my GP and he gave me this"
He handed me a carrier bag. Inside was a box of Co-Amoxiclav, a box of Prednisolone, a box of Paracetomol and a Salbutomol inhaler.
"When did you start taking them?"
"Yesterday"
"How many have you taken?"
"I took one last night but I still feel ill this morning?"
"You need to take them 3 times a day for the entire course, you won't get better overnight. Why did you call us then not tell us you have already been treated?! What do you want from us today if you don't want to go to hospital?"
"I just wanted you to check me over because I still feel ill so I thought the tablets weren't working"
You can imagine how the conversation continued! It was like talking to a brick wall. He didn't see my point nor did he think there was anything wrong with wanting an ambulance for a check-up. I didn't lecture him because a) there is no point and b) that isn't my job. There needs to be much more education about when we should and when we shouldn't be used, but I am not the one to deliver it. We checked him over, filled out our paperwork, got him to sign it and left.

"I know you are ill but can you do it quietly over there. Thank you"
I get your frustrations with the guy, but the FRV had been there 20 minutes and not ascertained that he'd been seen by the GP and got ABX yesterday?
ReplyDeleteYes it was an inappropriate call, but surely the FRV could and should have stood you down?
Patients often lie to get what they want, I went to one lady complaining of shortness of breath (she did have a chest infection to be fair and had also been given abx by her GP), she denied any history of asthma or COPD and her sats were 92% so I gave her some oxygen, a couple of minutes later I spotted a Spiriva inhaler on her bedroom shelf and asked if it was hers, of course it was and she had COPD, "I didn't think you meant that kind of COPD" she said.... Not sure we can necessarily blame the FRU.
DeleteTo be the fair, the FRU looked as bewildered as us when hearing this! He had ben given completely different answers!
DeleteALL PATIENTS LIE lol! Ah yes, that other COPD lol!
DeletePatients make every one out to be a liar. They probably didn't tell the FR V about his treatment. Mine deny any and then at the hospital produce all sorts of things to many exsaperated looks.
ReplyDeleteALL patients lie themselves! They can't help it!
DeleteThis really infuriates me. I have severe asthma and do end up calling ambulances a fair bit, but I'll always try everything in my remit first (I have home nebulisers for example) and would never dream of phoning for an ambulance without trying to sort myself out first! If only common sense could be prescribed...
ReplyDeleteAh but the problem is you have a genuine medical problem and may need help! It's people like you who don't call when you should and the ones that dont need us call us!!
DeleteDon't the fire brigade get to fine people who call out a fire engine for rescuing cats out of trees? Can't the ambulance service do them same? A moron-tax?
ReplyDeleteI know that they charge companies for getting people out of lifts!
DeleteI hate to say this, but I'm sure my Dad would do this if I wasn't around. He phones in the middle of the night with constipation, or wondering how often to take his Beecham's powders, or thinking he's had a stroke (I actually called an ambulance for him for this one, then got my son up and drove half an hour to him, only to find he'd had a nightmare and had been sleeping on his arm). He doesn't do it maliciously, he is just elderly and anxious.
ReplyDeleteBless him! Funnily enough im writing a blog about sleeping on an arm!
DeleteShow him a yellow card, goes on his record. He does it again, he gets a second yellow and a red card follows. With that he can call for ambulance but he'll be denied one. Suspension lasts a week, month, whatever is appropriate. End result is that the patient learns very fast that if he wants to mess people around they may not be able to help when he really needs it. Wasn't there an Aesop fable on this??!!:0))
ReplyDeleteHAHAHA! Love the card system! I may suggest it!
DeleteSounds like a nightmare. It's such a shame you can't carry a reaaaaaaaallllllly large needle and explain that you really need to give a high dose antibiotic in the scrotum and that's what ambulances do now.
ReplyDeleteMay make them think twice ;-)
THIS!!! Hahahahaaaa fpmsl THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN! Kellie for Prime Minister ;)
DeleteYou should so apply for the position being advertised shortly for Chief Executive of the London Ambulance Service! Your policy ideas would go down absolute treat with the road staff!
DeleteYes Gem, it does! We should start an e-petition!
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